tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post4947149738649627513..comments2023-09-29T05:32:04.308-07:00Comments on StrangePegs: Growing Up In the Race Divide (part 1)Andrew Leonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-39204676105392680222015-03-19T16:08:09.597-07:002015-03-19T16:08:09.597-07:00TAS: They are never simple.
People that come from...TAS: They are never simple. <br />People that come from overwhelmingly white areas don't really understand or understand the amount of pervasive racism that even they have because there is no direct target. Therefore, they think they are not racist.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-7770746783961513982015-03-18T19:44:19.856-07:002015-03-18T19:44:19.856-07:00I grew up in the quasi-South and race was always a...I grew up in the quasi-South and race was always an issue, more than I ever appreciated at the time. I am grateful to have grown up with diversity and believe my life is better for it. But matters of race are never simple in my experience.<br /><br />I find it very interesting that you had segregated classrooms within an integrated school.The Armchair Squidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10739833215220853127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-25544212050608252242015-03-18T19:25:06.159-07:002015-03-18T19:25:06.159-07:00Interesting, it left out "insert name of whom...Interesting, it left out "insert name of whomever peoples." I learned something new about using symbols on blogger.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-69483015621476879232015-03-18T19:24:10.233-07:002015-03-18T19:24:10.233-07:00Lee: I think, as a group, we like to be able to sa...Lee: I think, as a group, we like to be able to say to ourselves, "At least I'm better than those -insert name of whomever peoples-." And we like to have some group to blame for the ills of society. <br />It's pretty messed up.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-29500296449219369422015-03-18T19:21:15.255-07:002015-03-18T19:21:15.255-07:00Jeanne: Family Guy's a pretty white show, too,...Jeanne: Family Guy's a pretty white show, too, isn't it? I've never actually watched it, so I don't know that that's true, but all the stuff I've seen from it are white cartoon dudes. And a dog.<br /><br />And, yes, people think of racism as "I hate those !" but there is a cultural racism that doesn't include individual hatred.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-5566531112604340142015-03-18T16:35:38.812-07:002015-03-18T16:35:38.812-07:00You certainly had more exposure to other races tha...You certainly had more exposure to other races than I did. I never went to a school with any blacks until I started high school in Tennessee and then in a school with maybe 2000 students I don't know that there were many more than 20 who were black. Prior to that I attended schools in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and northwest Indiana--and nary a black student in any. <br /><br />So you can call most of my experience nil until I started at the University of Tennessee and took some Black Lit classes. Still never was close to any blacks until I started managing a show where we needed cast members who could dance well and there were a number of blacks that I hired because they were good dancers. Then I got to know them since I traveled with them for the entire season and we got to be good friends.<br />People are people and something in society seems to like to create divides.<br /><br />Arlee Bird<br />A to Z Challenge Co-host<br /><a href="http://afarawayview.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">A Faraway View</a><br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-71889600314700688532015-03-18T15:35:01.851-07:002015-03-18T15:35:01.851-07:00I went to school in a town so white that it was a ...I went to school in a town so white that it was a joke on Family Guy (seriously). There were two black kids in my grade, and one moved away before high school. I didn't have a single black teacher until college, and I graduated ten years ago. Yeah, it makes you think. People don't realize that this kind of stuff is what people are talking about when they say "racism".J E Oneilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09780097298061829471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-53717884874637776132015-03-18T12:27:00.387-07:002015-03-18T12:27:00.387-07:00Alex H: Well, CA education has plummeted since the...Alex H: Well, CA education has plummeted since the 80s. When I was in high school, CA was one of the best states for education. I heard a report the other day that said that CA is now #48. That's what happens when you take away the money and make it difficult for teachers to teach.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-29584902962719945892015-03-18T12:25:17.217-07:002015-03-18T12:25:17.217-07:00Jo: The racial issues in England, today, are of a ...Jo: The racial issues in England, today, are of a much different kind and all wrapped up in religion.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-82502352652101722542015-03-18T12:24:25.237-07:002015-03-18T12:24:25.237-07:00L.G.: If anything, Mississippi is worse than Louis...L.G.: If anything, Mississippi is worse than Louisiana. Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-60844342814782206972015-03-18T12:23:11.135-07:002015-03-18T12:23:11.135-07:00Pat: Again, in college, the only non-white teacher...Pat: Again, in college, the only non-white teachers were in the PE department.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-51426745130052860812015-03-18T12:21:59.430-07:002015-03-18T12:21:59.430-07:00Jean: My kids went to the most racially diverse el...Jean: My kids went to the most racially diverse elementary/middle school in our county... and it was/is at least 80% white. That's my own personal estimation based on just seeing the kids on campus. I don't have the numbers.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-35927612784741295992015-03-18T12:20:00.686-07:002015-03-18T12:20:00.686-07:00JKIR,F!: There's no denying that economic stat...JKIR,F!: There's no denying that economic status plays a huge role in all of this; however, when you look at the economics of it, you can really see how race plays into that.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-57930186751241694872015-03-18T08:07:26.606-07:002015-03-18T08:07:26.606-07:00I found the schools in Louisiana were superior to ...I found the schools in Louisiana were superior to the schools I went to in California (I was about two years ahead of the curriculums when we moved to the West Coast). <br /><br />But yeah, there was still social segregation at my Jr. High, at least. I remember it making me really, really uncomfortable. Alex Hursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05556334141936498897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-21932830000629828682015-03-18T06:59:02.254-07:002015-03-18T06:59:02.254-07:00Growing up in England I didn't come across any...Growing up in England I didn't come across any kind of racial problems in schools. These days there are lots of different nationalities living there but I don't know if there are problems there or not as I haven't lived there for 40 years now.Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14087140585742801854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-88067026468515164072015-03-18T06:41:31.162-07:002015-03-18T06:41:31.162-07:00My grandfather was from Mississippi. He carried th...My grandfather was from Mississippi. He carried that prejudice throughout his life and didn't think anything of it. I never heard my parents (both were teachers) express any racist attitudes when I was growing up in Colorado, which made it all the stranger to be around my grandfather and hear him say some weird thing about "those" people. Luanne G. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762881276976395955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-19208883713618964732015-03-18T06:32:16.842-07:002015-03-18T06:32:16.842-07:00I don't think I had any black teachers, except...I don't think I had any black teachers, except maybe in college, though I did have a couple of Indian and Asian teachers. So that's something.PT Dillowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394481476862013009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-39203561023494956672015-03-18T04:43:31.629-07:002015-03-18T04:43:31.629-07:00When I went through school, I only had two teacher...When I went through school, I only had two teachers in all my years that were not white and the vast majority of the students were white. Now it's all nicely mixed, and my kids, who are going through the same school system, really don't know any other way about it. <br /><br />I think that the major change between then and now is more because of the massive population growth between then and now more than any restructuring of the school systems.Jean Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02047709505502621618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658526372996117205.post-7318229399649449142015-03-18T03:31:34.113-07:002015-03-18T03:31:34.113-07:00What an interesting experience you had Dr. Leon. S...What an interesting experience you had Dr. Leon. Sadly, I would say our elementary schools where I live in NC are segregated because of lifestyle. Middle and High Schools are racially balanced, but the elementary schools are a hot bed of political discussion here. There is always talk of busing, redistricting etc.to balance out the numbers.Just Keepin It Real, Folks!https://www.blogger.com/profile/02691470259291755580noreply@blogger.com